tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4031352915519488668.post8370965929517702647..comments2023-10-31T08:49:14.757+00:00Comments on Cambridge Cyclist: Second worst cycling junction in the CountryCab Davidsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09019615820672574343noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4031352915519488668.post-55800741100302954412015-08-25T08:08:12.505+01:002015-08-25T08:08:12.505+01:00Thanks for the information! personal injury solici...Thanks for the information! <a href="http://www.clearwatersolicitors.co.uk" rel="nofollow">personal injury solicitors Firm</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08093430767962581879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4031352915519488668.post-916461976251722482015-08-21T20:01:18.170+01:002015-08-21T20:01:18.170+01:00The Lensfield Road junction may be dangerous, but ...The Lensfield Road junction may be dangerous, but I find it practicable and enjoyable to use, as you can nearly always weave your way through it quickly and legally. (I guess these two facts are connected.)<br /><br />Whereas, although it may be safer statistically, I hate the Science Park junction on Milton Road with the fire of a thousand suns, because it seems that whatever route you want to take, you have to fight your way across multiple lanes of 60 mph traffic only to end up trapped at a red light that takes five minutes to change.Gareth Reeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15405124248006286547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4031352915519488668.post-53757047619261523732015-08-21T14:56:23.557+01:002015-08-21T14:56:23.557+01:00Thats a radical solution :)
I dunno what the righ...Thats a radical solution :)<br /><br />I dunno what the right answer is, but I'd start out by immediately reducing the three-lane entrances to two. As you say, you just can't see whats coming from the far lanes.<br /><br />I'd like to see what the road-space measurements would be if we assumed taking, say, a car lane out from the all the roads there in the run up to and between the roundabouts. I get that road capacity matters, but that has to stop trumping cyclist safety.Cab Davidsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09019615820672574343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4031352915519488668.post-33117259031371557992015-08-21T14:02:04.689+01:002015-08-21T14:02:04.689+01:00It's just as bad coming from Fen Causeway and ...It's just as bad coming from Fen Causeway and trying to turn right into Trumpington Rd, peering through the traffic queuing up Trumpington Rd that's turning left into Fen Causeway to see if anyone going straight on is trundling up the outside and the just as you start turning someone coming south will swing across in front of you to turn right into Fen Causeway. I don't know what the solution is; traffic lights; a single "not very-" roundabout. My favourite would be a one way system Trumpington Rd, Brooklands Av, Hills Road, Lensfield Rd; but once I get started on that its filtered permeability on Tennis Court Road, Regents St and the whole of the Panton St area and that leads to... and pretty soon I'm redesigning the M11 ( three lanes, full access junctions and proper separate cycle tracks since you ask )M Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18021750394244871204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4031352915519488668.post-71409120721400524172015-08-21T13:32:57.614+01:002015-08-21T13:32:57.614+01:00Much can be done to tame these junctions though. B...Much can be done to tame these junctions though. But I doubt, as things stand with other 'upgrades' like Catholic Church, Perne Road etc. we'll get much for cycling there. Oh, they'll spend 'cycling' cash but once again leveraged for motorists.Cab Davidsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09019615820672574343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4031352915519488668.post-27659244087675982252015-08-21T13:22:56.900+01:002015-08-21T13:22:56.900+01:00Fen Causeway was built in the wrong place, resulti...Fen Causeway was built in the wrong place, resulting in multiple bad junctions.<br /><br />In my view, it should be between Barton Road & Brooklands Avenue. This would sort most of the problems at Barton Road/Newnham Road and would prompt a big re-think of the Lensfield Road junction. But it will never happen.Alhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06817806128052425511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4031352915519488668.post-75148475017306216912015-08-21T13:22:31.592+01:002015-08-21T13:22:31.592+01:00Sorry, I have to disagree with you. Its nonsense t...Sorry, I have to disagree with you. Its nonsense to say that this is because Cambridge is so very much a cyclist city that this junction is in the list - its only one of very many junctions in Cambridge and its the only one that makes the top ten, and its right up there I gather just one accident behind the top spot for the country. Thats way out of proportion to all of the other junctions in Cambridge.<br /><br />While you're right that there are of course junctions that would be worse to ride but on which there are few cyclist accidents because no one even tries, that doesn't in any way detract from the fact that this one is out in front for Cambridge - how many accidents are reported at the Mill Road junction? Catholic Church? The assertion that this near top position is an inevitability in such a 'cycled' city misses that entirely.<br /><br />Sadly the way the Catholic Church Junction redevelopment basically swiped nearly half a million cycling cash to give us ASL's I can't get to and a single advance red light tells me we're not likely to see cycling considered as more important here. But we can wait and see what the proposals are.<br /><br />I note that London Cycling Campaign have had a flash protest at Bank junction - will you lot at Cambridge Cycling Campaign support one for Lensfield Road junction?Cab Davidsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09019615820672574343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4031352915519488668.post-50042993693765365712015-08-21T12:24:41.792+01:002015-08-21T12:24:41.792+01:00"Likewise, there are glib tweets along the li..."Likewise, there are glib tweets along the lines of this being a statistical inevitability because there are so many cyclists in Cambridge"<br /><br />I don't think its glib to point out that the basis for the entire ranking ignores numbers cycling. It's as bad as the reports for Cambridge as the cycle theft capital of the UK, or any graph that shows a map of behavior that pretty much correlates with population density. It tells us nothing.<br /><br />I have no doubt that I could find 10 worse junctions for cycling in the UK, it's 'just' nobody cycles on them. In fact, I very much doubt I would have to leave Cambridgeshire to find 10 worse junctions.<br /><br />This is not at all the same thing as saying that this junction isn't dangerous and doesn't need to be changed. It does. But if you base your argument on dodgy statistics, you are undermining your own case, and ultimately hurting the chances of fixing the problem. This has already happened: people are pointing out the obvious flaws in the data rather than engaging with the fact that the junction needs to be fixed.<br /><br />Which it will be, by the way, or at least there is a current project. Whether this actually fixes it depends very much on what the proposals turn out to be. Hesterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01786445447447946710noreply@blogger.com